Today in my Ancient History class, we were told that Jesus first appeared around 4 BC, and that we started our calendar late. If this is true, then it isn't 2009, it's 2013. Take that, 2012.
The year one was when Jesus had the 12 apostles following him ad, the year of our lord, you fail. The year is still 2010 the Mayan calender is based on lunar cycles, the calender ends in the 2012 lunar cycle.
The Mayan calendar does not end in the 2012 lunar cycle. It ends around 4700. And our current calendar system was created hundreds of years AD and was indeed set incorrectly--it's off by about 3-4 years.
Okay, the reason it went from bc to ad was BECAUSE of christ. this makes no sense since if christ was never born it would still be bc your teacher is an idiot
Well if we call it 'BC' then it must truly be 'BC', right? After all, hundreds of years later when they actually started the modern 'BC/AD' calendar system, they had flawless records of the past centuries, right?
Actually it would make it 2005/2006, buddy. If were late, then we go back... Either way, the mayan calendar would adjust and become 2008 with the logic. or for you case, 2016.
no actually it would be 2014, if it started 4BC then to work it out we would add 4 more years. Good point about the mayan calender would just adjust, But either way it must be remembered that the curren calender is Roman and that the Romans didnt become christian till 300ish years after Jesus so no one from jesuses birth would have been alive when the Romans decided to change their calender to fit with Jesus, hence the mistake in the first place
We base everything off of the 'sacred' Mayan calender, so regardless of when Jesus did his stuff, it would still remain the same. Needless to say the whole B.C. thing is to be blamed on the christians.
what do you mean "blamed" you retard in that case, whatever holiday is unique to your religion is to be blamed for it there you go a taste of your own freakin criticizing medicine
'Before Christ' is a term we use in our calendar system. The fact that it's not actually before Christ should not blow your mind any more than the fact that the Hundred Year War lasted 116 years. It's just a name.
Remember, as we go further back in time and pass the division of AD and BC, we begin getting larger numbers again. So the logic is kind of correct, however, we do not measure from when he showed up, we measure time from his death. A.D. stands for After Death.
No. AD stands for Anno Domini, roughly translating into English as "the year of the lord" from latin. Either way, if it did stand for "after death", he dies at around age thirty three...so the calander would be set back another thirty or so years. So yeah, we do measure from "when he showed up".
In everything I have ever seen A.D. means After Death. I'm not saying he DID show up in 4 B.C., and I took latin and did a Bible study, not once did either ever say Anno Domini; always After Death
Except you missed a couple things. The people who predicted 2012, the Mayans, for one: they didn't say we were all going to die, but simply a new cycle was to begin. What this means, no one truly knows. And secondly, they weren't Christian based, and therefore didn't even use the calendar derived from it using BC and AD.
AD doesn't stand for after death, actually. It stands for Anno Domini, which means year of our Lord. Common misconception.
2012 is just another y2k thing. It'll pass.
the whole BC/AD thing was invented by Dionysius Exiguus (Dennis the Short... haha) and based on the consulship records. apparently, they were flawed. it's also important to remember that there is no year 0... so the number we refer to is the year we are currently in, not how many years have past already.
first off, i dont care about what a.d. actually stands for, but im going to refer to it as after death. If a.d. means after death, and since there is no year zero, the moment after b.c. ends, a.d. begins. If the moment that a.d. begins is when jesus dies, then b.c. was before he died, which would mean that he would be born about 33 b.c.. Plus, the fact that jesus didnt show up until 4 b.c. might be reffering to when the bible starts really speaking stories about him, which didnt really start until he was thirty. give or take a few days, that would roughly come out to him being thirty three when he died and it became a.d.
Dear people, read the previous comments before you ask the same question that's been answered over and over... as one graduating in 2 months with a major in Biblical Studies, let me clear this up.
-The Julian and later Gregorian calendars were based of the date of Jesus' conception or birth that was accepted at that time, which would have been around 1 AD, which stands for the Latin "Anno Domini" (in the year of our lord), not "after death"
-More recent scholarship has uncovered issues with this dating of Jesus' birth, and while there are many conflicting theories, all place it sometime BC (which does stand for "before Christ"). Usually 4, 7, 12, or 18 BC
-This discrepancy has caused the recent shift to using the designations BCE (before common/Christian era) and CE (common/Christian era)
-Consequently, the question of how Jesus could be around before his own birth is inconsequential, it is simply a miscalculation from the inception of the calendar system
-As far as the question regarding the Mayan calendar, this calendar system is completely unrelated to our Julian calendar. The way we figured 2012 as the end of the Mayan calendar was through calculations that matched our two systems. If we were four years off (going with the logic that Jesus was actually born in 4BC according to our current system), then the current date under the Julian calendar would be 2014, with the end of the Mayan calendar occurring in 2016.
Hope that helped to clear up any questions!
Correct except the part about the Mayan calendar. The Mayan calendar actually ends in 4772ce or later--or 4772adjustedce if you want to do it that way.
I know... the Jews have been going by CE and BCE for a while because we dont like to have our calander circulating around Jesus, so instead of actually refrencing Jesus we just say the "common era" which is in truth the same thing, but they feel better putting it this way.
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